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« Reply #360 on: August 29, 2013, 06:09:06 PM »

Litigation..alleging what exactly??  Assuming a court action was not thrown out at an early stage, the spectre of a folk rock Jarndyce vs. Jarndyce looms, with the participants spending all their money and time on a futile exercise..
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« Reply #361 on: August 29, 2013, 06:32:54 PM »



 There are plenty of us who'd be happy to lend any assistance we can.


It's a pity that work has already started Philip.......you would have been my nominee for a crack at re-telling the Swarbrick tales of yore.  
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« Reply #362 on: August 29, 2013, 07:57:11 PM »




 There are plenty of us who'd be happy to lend any assistance we can.


It's a pity that work has already started Philip.......you would have been my nominee for a crack at re-telling the Swarbrick tales of yore.  


Well, thank you kindly, sir! I'm curious to know the identity of this "doctor of history" who is helping, ghosting, or whatever.
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« Reply #363 on: August 29, 2013, 08:10:00 PM »

I wonder if h would have the same attitude if he had been offered 10% of the take?
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« Reply #364 on: August 29, 2013, 08:24:43 PM »



Well, thank you kindly, sir! I'm curious to know the identity of this "doctor of history" who is helping, ghosting, or whatever.


Especially since, as your scare quotes suggest, there's no such thing as a doctor of history! (One can, of course, be a Doctor of Philosophy in History.)

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A Doctor of Philosophy in Philosophy
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« Reply #365 on: August 29, 2013, 09:23:13 PM »

Or maybe it is really a Doctor Of Physick  Wink
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« Reply #366 on: August 29, 2013, 09:26:23 PM »


I wonder if h would have the same attitude if he had been offered 10% of the take?


well it seems odd to me that a book which purports to be the definitive tome about a band  doesn't at least interview the surviving former members, never mind the man who was the guiding force for most of the 70's.
had he been interviewed and given a cut of the profits he might not be as peplexed as to where the writer got his info from
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« Reply #367 on: August 29, 2013, 09:30:40 PM »



I wonder if h would have the same attitude if he had been offered 10% of the take?


well it seems odd to me thata book that purports to be the definitive tome about a band  doesn't at least ointerview the surviving former members never mind the man who was the guiding force for most of the 70's.
had he been interviewed and given a cut of the profits he might not be as peplexed as to where the writer got his info from


Who tf gets a cut of the profits for an interview in a biography?  The current band wil have (presumably) got paid for the signatures and their 'authorisation' of the product, but beyond that...?  I doubt anybody's got even remotely rich out of it.  The only thing wrong with the whole project is that the book is inaccurate and sloppy about lots of stuff.  He's right to point that out of course...I wish he'd just stop going on about it and concentrate on what he can control.  Good comments, Philip, btw...I've given up reading most of his threads so thanks for posting that here.
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« Reply #368 on: August 29, 2013, 10:18:59 PM »


Or maybe it is really a Doctor Of Physick  Wink

I'd go and check on your relic now if I were you Sandra.  Grin

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« Reply #369 on: August 29, 2013, 11:49:49 PM »





 There are plenty of us who'd be happy to lend any assistance we can.


It's a pity that work has already started Philip.......you would have been my nominee for a crack at re-telling the Swarbrick tales of yore.  


Well, thank you kindly, sir! I'm curious to know the identity of this "doctor of history" who is helping, ghosting, or whatever.


In one of his FB posts on this subject, Swarb identified the author of his authorized biography as Professor Jason Wilson:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Wilson_(musician)

Dr. Wilson is also a reggae musician with whom I had the pleasure of seeing Swarb and David Francey perform in Toronto several years back.
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« Reply #370 on: August 30, 2013, 10:31:50 AM »

He appears (with hi9s band) on the first track of the Raison d'etre album doesn't he?  And according to the Wikipedia album is recording an album with Swarb which is due out this year.
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« Reply #371 on: August 30, 2013, 02:45:48 PM »


...I wish he'd just stop going on about it and concentrate on what he can control.  


Hear hear. The book's out there, haven't read it and I probably won't - not for that steep price (for the postage to Holland alone, I'd have to sell a child and a few belongings to cough that up!) and not after comments from various ex members, and readers. It was once on my wishlist and now it's not.

I wouldn't know about inside stuff that is or isn't in there, and is or isn't accurate, for I wasn't there, but ... the very simple fact that it makes Maart come out of Leeds instead of Manchester is so sloppy for such a basic simple little fact, it's beyond belief. Having spotted a fair few inaccuracies myself in the Free Reed boxset books when they came out (no example off the top of my head, I just remember having read things which were wrong, as in Cropredy details of years I was there myself), I have to believe what Swarb says about it being riddled with mistakes is true.

But who to blame - wasn't it more a collective mistake, misremembered things, oversights, so long ago, old interview bits used actually being inaccurate, etc etc etc?
Nigel Schofield I suppose was commissioned to do this because the publisher and the current band trusted him with the matter. And he probably did the best he felt he could with the means he had. Who was sloppy? The writer, the proofreader, the interviewees' memory, the publisher, the deadline, the passing of 45+ years, a combination of all? It's a little easy to put Nigel Schofield in the corner and brand him a bad boy. Or current Fairporters.

On Facebook Swarb goes on and on and on and on and on and on (on and on and on and on and on and on) about it. The book is out there, warts 'n all however well presented as a luxury book by the outside looks of it, and there's very little to do about that now. Other than for Swarb to write his own book (and that would be his view: who says THAT is 200% accurate? Swarb will, sure - but however big a role he had, he ain't all Fairport).
This book is called "Fairport by Fairport". Guess it ain't the best of titles then, unless with Fairport they mean: the five who are Fairport now: the way THEY remember it, or even the way they choose to present it. Would "Fairport by Swarb" end up a faultless gospel no-one objects to? We shall see, if this happens at all - by all means, let him write it, instead of endlessly bemoaning what's already out there. Maart was fairly vocal about inaccuracies as well, but he made his point and moved on. Life's too short. Music's too precious.  

After all those comments, I have been convinced not to bother with the book, anyway. Maybe at best I will if it ever becomes an eBay cheapo, but I doubt it will.
But, Facebookswarb, move on, ye made yer point already. Is it in anyone's advantage at all to get nastier than abolutely needed? In one of his later writings, he asks if he could have copies of all the Free Reed box set books. I trust this means he never bothered much about their content before?
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« Reply #372 on: August 30, 2013, 09:14:14 PM »

Well said, koho. I myself will not be buying the book any time soon anyway, simply because I don't have the cash available after throwing meat to the creditors nipping at my heels. I just hate to see such a long association end with such acrimony. Oh, well.
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« Reply #373 on: September 03, 2013, 09:27:57 AM »

I tried not to laugh but I couldn't help it with this one:

"today I start work on my book 'FAirport by ex Fairport' the unexpurgated history of Fairport convention from 1985 till the present day. sub titled ' when i left'. I shall be interviewing nobody. please do not tell any member of the group, I want it to be a secret."

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« Reply #374 on: September 03, 2013, 09:58:25 AM »


I tried not to laugh but I couldn't help it with this one:

"today I start work on my book 'FAirport by ex Fairport' the unexpurgated history of Fairport convention from 1985 till the present day. sub titled ' when i left'. I shall be interviewing nobody. please do not tell any member of the group, I want it to be a secret."

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That's hilarious.

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« Reply #375 on: September 03, 2013, 10:02:51 AM »



I tried not to laugh but I couldn't help it with this one:

"today I start work on my book 'FAirport by ex Fairport' the unexpurgated history of Fairport convention from 1985 till the present day. sub titled ' when i left'. I shall be interviewing nobody. please do not tell any member of the group, I want it to be a secret."

 Grin


That's hilarious.


Jules


But pitiful. I really can't believe he wants to drive this big a wedge between himself and his ex bandmates who clearly love him.

This is a cracked record now and psychologically it seems like a worrying level of obsession.
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« Reply #376 on: September 03, 2013, 10:07:47 AM »




I tried not to laugh but I couldn't help it with this one:

"today I start work on my book 'FAirport by ex Fairport' the unexpurgated history of Fairport convention from 1985 till the present day. sub titled ' when i left'. I shall be interviewing nobody. please do not tell any member of the group, I want it to be a secret."

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That's hilarious.


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But pitiful. I really can't believe he wants to drive this big a wedge between himself and his ex bandmates who clearly love him.

This is a cracked record now and psychologically is seems like a worrying level of obsession.


I'm not going to disagree with you (although I still think the joke itself above *is* funny)...but the comments in the thread (many of them by people who don't seem to get the point of the joke that Swarb has just made) below and Swarb's responses to them are (very) disappointing...
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« Reply #377 on: September 03, 2013, 06:46:00 PM »

I love Swarb, and all of his strange ways.  He can do, or say no wrong as far as I'm concerned.  Lips Sealed Wink
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« Reply #378 on: September 03, 2013, 07:34:07 PM »





I tried not to laugh but I couldn't help it with this one:

"today I start work on my book 'FAirport by ex Fairport' the unexpurgated history of Fairport convention from 1985 till the present day. sub titled ' when i left'. I shall be interviewing nobody. please do not tell any member of the group, I want it to be a secret."

 Grin


That's hilarious.


Jules


But pitiful. I really can't believe he wants to drive this big a wedge between himself and his ex bandmates who clearly love him.

This is a cracked record now and psychologically is seems like a worrying level of obsession.


I'm not going to disagree with you (although I still think the joke itself above *is* funny)...but the comments in the thread (many of them by people who don't seem to get the point of the joke that Swarb has just made) below and Swarb's responses to them are (very) disappointing...


I especially liked spotting comments from (among others) Sylvia Nicol and Dave Mattacks.
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« Reply #379 on: September 03, 2013, 08:05:32 PM »


I especially liked spotting comments from (among others) Sylvia Nicol and Dave Mattacks.


Cut and paste, anyone?

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