'Fairport by Fairport'

[Austin S]

If nobody else grabs them first, I'll pick 'em after work  

[Andy]

I especially liked spotting comments from (among others) Sylvia Nicol and Dave Mattacks.

Cut and paste, anyone?

Jules

Here's an edited version with a few honourable contributors' comments.

Incidentally I think describing Swarb as pitiful is at best patronising and at worst, downright insulting to him. If he feels annoyed that details were missed or gotten entirely wrong, who are we to say he can't comment?



[Photo over 400 days old. Removed by Admin.]

[Andy]

And here is what he's actually going to do.

[Photo over 400 days old. Removed by Admin.]

[Jules Gray]

And here is what he's actually going to do.

Now this idea I really like!

Jules

[leahdon (Donna)]

If he's on page 4, it will be some time before it comes out, if it is as full of mistakes as he claims! Interesting that he forgot Simon's wife was one of his FB friends (as a current FC member, as opposed to DM, JD and Maart).

[Henry Tompkins (Pete)]

I can guarantee right here and now, that those that have been on this forum berating the Swarbster, will be the first to send off/read the pamphlet.    

[David W]

Incidentally I think describing Swarb as pitiful is at best patronising and at worst, downright insulting to him. If he feels annoyed that details were missed or gotten entirely wrong, who are we to say he can't comment?

Nobody said Swarb was pitiful - merely some of his comments on a particular issue.

DW

[John From Austin]

And here is what he's actually going to do.

God bless him!  I will send him the SASE and also make a contribution to his favourite (Eng. spelling) charity!

[GubGub (Al)]

Incidentally I think describing Swarb as pitiful is at best patronising and at worst, downright insulting to him. If he feels annoyed that details were missed or gotten entirely wrong, who are we to say he can't comment?

Nobody said Swarb was pitiful - merely some of his comments on a particular issue.

DW

Exactly. Thank you. I was referring to the perpetuation of the squabble, not the man. The point was well made long ago.

[MarkC]

Seems to me the whole thing will end up polarizing current and former band members as well as fans...and, in fact, already has started to. That makes me sad.  

[Austin S]

Seems to me the whole thing will end up polarizing current and former band members as well as fans...and, in fact, already has started to. That makes me sad.  

Here's still hoping that the music and the meaningfulness of long-term friendships will overcome current hurt feelings and anger, as I'm sure they have in the past.  

[koho (Koen)]

Well with promising that pamphlet, at least he seems more constructive.

However it seems to get written in a time of some apparent bad blood so here's to hoping he can avoid unnecessary 'dirty linen' for the thing about publishing stuff is - you can't correct something once it's set in stone ( ... as we see with the Schofield book ... it's out there and a pamphlet with Swarb's corrections doesn't change that), so here's to hoping it's a pamphlet with dignity and without the sometimes quite snide remarks, posted "shot from the hip" at FB ... at the author, the publisher and ex colleagues, however much I can understand his irritation if his own claims are true (and I bet they are) but it's all very public indeed.

So mistakes were made, so things were misremembered, so the writer may have been misinformed or was lousy in fact checking - but would it all have been on purpose? We're only human (and we all may remember things differently to boot). It's kinda shoddy on the factchecking, to say the least, even more so for a book this expensive. I'd be quite pissed off had I spent - what, 40 quid inc P&P to Europe?

And who knows maybe they can kiss 'n make up and the publisher incorporates these corrections in a possible next edition which I'd then happily buy (not now, not that much dosh for a book with multiple flaws).

In he end they share a very important past; current FC would have been where they are now without Swarb but, lest we forget, vice versa too, they owe a lot to each other.
And some spent half lives in each other's pocket, too, of course there's (been) occasionally bad blood, they're not in airy fairy land where all is well, it's real life stuff, it's a job and they're forever linked with each other long after they kicked the bucket.
Heck, there's occasional bad blood in my marriage, too   but that doesn't mean I don't love her!

[Simon Withers]

May be all the members of Fairport (both past and present) could write their own biographies...they could come out as a box set...
or perhaps (more appropriately) marketed and sold (Through the usual retail outlets) as a part work issued over 52 weeks...although the chances are it would continue into issue no. 53...54...67...101

[bassline (Mike)]

I reckon the solution is this...
Do some deal with a t.v production company,build a house somewhere,a field in Oxfordshire maybe,with various rooms,a diary room (or dairy room if there are still cows in the field) and so on,and put loads of hidden cameras in it.Call the programme Fairport Convention:Air Your Contention or Full House.
Lock each line up of the band in it as they occured originally,so start with Jude,Simon,Richard,Ashley and Ian,and each day,someone has to go into the diary room and is given a subject about the bands history to discuss in order to win a days food.
The members then reminisce,discuss,argue about that subject,until a consensus is achieved and the task is completed.The next line up is then assembled and the process is repeated until the truth is presented for publication.
I can see it now:

Geordie bloke (played by Bob Fox):Day twelve - Simon,Richard,D.M,and Swarb are in the garden,when Peggy has something to say:

Peggy:Well I remember it perfectly, I poured me cider,and I opened the fridge to get me kippers,and they were gone.I didn't eat 'em so who did,eh?
Richard:Well don't look at me,I was in the garden practicing my archery,trying to get that bloody peacock out of the tree.
DM:I was practicing on my new triangle.What a bargain that was,did I tell you about the kid? He was...
Peggy:Yes,Dave,about a million times....that's not relevant anyway....I want to know who ate me kippers!
Simon:And what about my shampoo? I was running a bath and I couldn't find it anywhere,so I had to go into Little Hadham to buy some more,and when I got back,the water was cold.Again.
Swarb:It couldn't have been me....I was moving me bed.
Peggy:Peacocks!Triangles!Shampoo!Beds!WHATABOUTMEBLOODYKIPPERS?
Richard (mutters):And you wonder why I went solo.......
Simon:Hang on....If it wasn't Me,Richard,Dave,Dave or Dave.....it must have been....
Simon,Richard,Peggy,Swarb,D.M:THE MIGHTY GLYDD!!!!!!!!!!!

A ratings winner,I reckon!  

[Jules Gray]

I reckon the solution is this...

Excellent fooling, Mike!  

Jules

[Ollie]

Here's the link to Swarb's corrections - http://www.folkicons.co.uk/fbfcorrections.pdf

[Jules Gray]

Here's the link to Swarb's corrections - http://www.folkicons.co.uk/fbfcorrections.pdf

Fascinating.  Now I think I understand why he's so upset.

Thanks for that, Ollie.

Jules

[hendo (Dave)]

It was things like, temper issues' and the effects of bachus drink, on the band that I hoped to know more about.
Interesting if Nigel really did have no proof reading control over the finished product.
I have said before,the illustrations are awful.
I had always assumed Swarb been in Scotland was the reason he didn't rejoin in 85. He would now seem to reject this.
 

[Jules Gray]

This settles it once and for all for me - I'm not buying this book.

Jules

[MarkC]

I read the "corrections." For the record, Dylan went electric in 1965.