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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2012, 11:53:11 PM » |
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"Best Wishes" was mooted as a MOTL replacement for awhile but I think the Fairports realised that was not going to be accepted as such by their traditional audiences.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2012, 11:54:53 PM » |
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Simon must have forgotten that!
Simon wasn't in that line up |
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 12:47:58 AM » |
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Ah, that would explain it.
Not that he specified "by every Fairport lineup that he was in", but I guess it's unfair to expect him to know what was played in his absence.
That wasn't a personal conversation, by the way, it was said from the stage on the XXXV tour.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 07:03:34 AM » |
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I like MOTL - a lot - but I find it a wee bit depressing so I tend to stay away from it
It's the most uplifting comforting song I know. Which is probably why I always blub all the way through it..  I wondered how I would cope with it at Cropredy the first year after my Mum died (we missed 2005 as she was too ill for us to leave her) but it had no effect at all on me  maybe I'm just hard-nosed! Or I've deliberately hardened myself to it, as I certainly used to blub at it  |
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2012, 07:14:54 AM » |
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I like MOTL - a lot - but I find it a wee bit depressing so I tend to stay away from it
It's the most uplifting comforting song I know. Which is probably why I always blub all the way through it.. Well, it can be, given that the song is "about being exposed and vulnerable and subject to public scrutiny. Probably about life as a performing musician. And if you are sincere, you get to keep practicing your art, and it all comes round again." (RT himself) In the context of Fairport and their 45 years, it works for me. However, dwelling on lost loved ones at the end of an FC concert, being surrounded by people crying for their lost love ones and seeing photos of the recently deceased is a tad depressing and somewhat morbid to my mind. (Oops! Better take cover! ) |
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2012, 07:45:57 AM » |
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We saw FC a few years back in Aberdare (don't ask) and I'm sure they didn't end on MOTL but I can't remember what they sang instead  maybe WKWTTG .... Possibly the WKWTTG tour - they finished with that when I saw them and very emotional that was too, no MOTL that night (funny that I can remember the the set quite well, but hell knows where it was that I saw them). |
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2012, 08:35:41 AM » |
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Personally I love the song, it was possibly the first song by them I heard on a Radio One session (Stuart Henry show, I think) & seem to recall it being played mid set in the Farewell tour. Since the resurrection, having taken it's place as the finale at most shows I've seen & at Cropredy, I feel ambivalent about it. There is something so intensely personal about it that it's somehow devalued by constant repetition. It obviously means so much to so many that it must be difficult for the band to, assuming they even wanted to, remove it from it's place in the set list. Personally, I'd like to see regain it's power by dropping it from "normal" shows & reserved for the last song at Cropredy. (More heresy perhaps, but the same thing pretty much applies to Matty)  |
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2012, 08:43:58 AM » |
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Not fair to those who cannot make it to Cropredy.
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2012, 08:46:00 AM » |
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Not fair to those who cannot make it to Cropredy.
No argument there. Just my (selfish) opinion. |
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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2012, 09:13:32 AM » |
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I saw them on the acoustic tour a couple of years ago when they finished with Best Wishes the Steve Ashley song. Seemed very wrong. It had been a very good evening but the absence of MOTL let me feeling quite flat.
I saw the acoustic tour in St Helens in 2010. It was very poorly attended and the whole band seemed grumpy. There wasn't an encore played at all - I recall that Tiny Tin Lady played support that night (being locals) and the singer was in the audience for Fairport's set and shouted out at the end something about 'No Meet on the ledge..shame!' |
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« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2012, 09:14:28 AM » |
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Ah, that would explain it.
Not that he specified "by every Fairport lineup that he was in", but I guess it's unfair to expect him to know what was played in his absence.
That wasn't a personal conversation, by the way, it was said from the stage on the XXXV tour.
i am pretty sure he said the same thing during the BBC4 documentary recently. |
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« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2012, 09:16:34 AM » |
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Amusingly (and anyone who ever went to one of his concerts knows it would have been), Noel Murphy was probably ending his shows with his version of Meet on the Ledge several years before Fairport. For example, the song closes his live album, "Caught in the Act" from 1978 and I saw him do it as the last song in a concert in Chesterfield about the same time. (He'd stepped in at the last minute for a poorly Mike Harding and had the place in hysterics for the whole concert.)
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« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2012, 09:35:07 AM » |
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Simon has likened Fairport to a football team. In that case, MOTL is their You'll Never Walk Alone.
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2012, 10:18:40 AM » |
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Amusingly (and anyone who ever went to one of his concerts knows it would have been), Noel Murphy was probably ending his shows with his version of Meet on the Ledge several years before Fairport. For example, the song closes his live album, "Caught in the Act" from 1978 and I saw him do it as the last song in a concert in Chesterfield about the same time. (He'd stepped in at the last minute for a poorly Mike Harding and had the place in hysterics for the whole concert.)
I've got an old vinyl copy of Noel Murphy's album, 'Murf' and there's a version of MOTL on that. In the notes he says it's the song that closes all the shows and then they collapse in a heap and kip on the empties (if my memory serves me right) |
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« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2012, 10:31:40 AM » |
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Amusingly (and anyone who ever went to one of his concerts knows it would have been), Noel Murphy was probably ending his shows with his version of Meet on the Ledge several years before Fairport. For example, the song closes his live album, "Caught in the Act" from 1978 and I saw him do it as the last song in a concert in Chesterfield about the same time. (He'd stepped in at the last minute for a poorly Mike Harding and had the place in hysterics for the whole concert.)
I've got an old vinyl copy of Noel Murphy's album, 'Murf' and there's a version of MOTL on that. In the notes he says it's the song that closes all the shows and then they collapse in a heap and kip on the empties (if my memory serves me right) As we left the Chesterfield concert after a rousing MOTL, we had to pass the "artist's dressing room". The door was open and he was genuinely collapsed in a heap! As he said, "May the Lord have Murphy on you"... |
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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2012, 01:40:10 AM » |
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I wondered how I would cope with it at Cropredy the first year after my Mum died (we missed 2005 as she was too ill for us to leave her) but it had no effect at all on me maybe I'm just hard-nosed! Or I've deliberately hardened myself to it, as I certainly used to blub at it I thought the same this year, after losing Mum in March. It was the first time I've not cried throughout the song. |
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2012, 12:02:31 PM » |
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I wondered how I would cope with it at Cropredy the first year after my Mum died (we missed 2005 as she was too ill for us to leave her) but it had no effect at all on me maybe I'm just hard-nosed! Or I've deliberately hardened myself to it, as I certainly used to blub at it I thought the same this year, after losing Mum in March. It was the first time I've not cried throughout the song. funny isn't it? |
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2012, 12:10:14 PM » |
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I wondered how I would cope with it at Cropredy the first year after my Mum died (we missed 2005 as she was too ill for us to leave her) but it had no effect at all on me maybe I'm just hard-nosed! Or I've deliberately hardened myself to it, as I certainly used to blub at it I thought the same this year, after losing Mum in March. It was the first time I've not cried throughout the song. funny isn't it? I think you both make a very good point. I got into the band and fell in love with the song at 15. My old man died when I was 20. I thought in advance it would break me in two listening to that immediately after he died (Cropredy '87). But it didn't. I cried but I was uplifted. It's been like that for me ever since. Powerful stuff. |
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2012, 05:06:53 PM » |
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Simon has likened Fairport to a football team. In that case, MOTL is their You'll Never Walk Alone.
Not a chance - Fairport are SO much better than Liverpool (sorry, Peter!) Solid defence (Pegg & Conway), commanding midfield presence (Nicol) and 2 fantastic wingers (Sanders & Leslie). I think the first time I heard MOTL was on a Granada teatime TV show - so it must have been 68-69-ish - certainly before I saw the band on Ainsdale beach and became a fan. It didn't really strike any emotional chords at the time, but it definitely did at Cropredy 1979... |
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2012, 07:24:20 PM » |
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Not a chance - Fairport are SO much better than Liverpool (sorry, Peter!) Solid defence (Pegg & Conway), commanding midfield presence (Nicol) and 2 fantastic wingers (Sanders & Leslie).
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