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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2014, 07:38:39 AM » |
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A pity they gave up on contemporaneous pictures.
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2014, 08:23:41 AM » |
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Quite a decent list, pretty similar to what mine would be though I'd probably have more from earlier years.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2014, 09:51:59 AM » |
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This is an old article, surely? Does Richard know he's still filed under Fairport on here?  |
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2014, 10:05:17 AM » |
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Some of the comments on the songs are a bit iffy. I always thought Dimming of the Day was a devotional song. Plus, as we all know, Swarb wrote the melody for Crazy Man Michael. Good list, though. I'd probably replace a couple with King of Bohemia and The Great Valerio, but that's just me.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2014, 10:39:37 AM » |
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I suspect we all have an RT list.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2014, 10:43:05 AM » |
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The Great Valerio
Never could get into that song. For me, it just hangs there in a torpid stupor. Not nearly enough in the way of dynamics for me to get my teeth into. Jules |
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2014, 11:48:57 AM » |
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The Great Valerio
Never could get into that song. For me, it just hangs there in a torpid stupor. Not nearly enough in the way of dynamics for me to get my teeth into. Jules I love it. Probably in my top 20. What a melody line. Then again, torpid stupor is my natural state so perhaps it just resonates with me. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2014, 12:36:46 PM » |
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The Great Valerio
Never could get into that song. For me, it just hangs there in a torpid stupor. Not nearly enough in the way of dynamics for me to get my teeth into. Jules I love it. Probably in my top 20. What a melody line. Then again, torpid stupor is my natural state so perhaps it just resonates with me. Weren't Torpid Stupor one of the great lost slacker bands of the late 80s/early 90s? |
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2014, 01:11:37 PM » |
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The Great Valerio
Never could get into that song. For me, it just hangs there in a torpid stupor. Not nearly enough in the way of dynamics for me to get my teeth into. Jules It's interesting the way you say it 'hangs there' because I've always felt the arrangement of the song - Linda's vocal, the melody and the guitar part (particularly the tense then abrupt ending) - was very evocative of suspension, in the literal sense of the high-wire walker and in the sense of all those upturned faces, holding their breath, waiting for the fall. I know Hendo's only teasing, but we all like what we like and of course there are no rights and wrongs when it comes to personal taste. Thus I feel free to say that whilst I love, say, Vincent Black Lightning, I wouldn't put it in my list because - while it certainly has great dynamics - I don't think it has a strong enough melody to count as one of RT's great songs. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2014, 01:16:13 PM » |
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Ah, Talkawhilers disagree about favourite songs shock.................................................................. again.   Dave, you have just described the function of a discussion forum. If you think it is bad here, you should head over to the Steve Hoffman forum. I participate there too. Threads continue for weeks and months over tens or hundreds of pages. It is an entertaining diversion but I have ultimately come to realise that the endless sharing of entrenched opinions is the very definition of pointlessness. Fun though. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2014, 01:46:14 PM » |
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The other function of a forum is to veer wildly off topic at the first opportunity  Anyway, back to the article. I like the way the Telegraph have managed to number the songs from 1 up to 15 and from 15 down to 1 at the same time. That's clever page design that is. Cheers Nick |
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2014, 02:18:34 PM » |
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Ah, Talkawhilers disagree about favourite songs shock.................................................................. again. Dave, you have just described the function of a discussion forum. ..............again. If you think it is bad here, you should head over to the Steve Hoffman forum. I participate there too. Threads continue for weeks and months over tens or hundreds of pages. It is an entertaining diversion but I have ultimately come to realise that the endless sharing of entrenched opinions is the very definition of pointlessness. Fun though. I'm not a participant at the SH forums, but I do read some of the threads avidly. Yes, it's full of entrenched opinions, but, oh, the depth of knowledge. I've learned much from reading it. Jules |
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2014, 02:59:53 PM » |
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The Great Valerio
Never could get into that song. For me, it just hangs there in a torpid stupor. Not nearly enough in the way of dynamics for me to get my teeth into. Jules It's interesting the way you say it 'hangs there' because I've always felt the arrangement of the song - Linda's vocal, the melody and the guitar part (particularly the tense then abrupt ending) - was very evocative of suspension, in the literal sense of the high-wire walker and in the sense of all those upturned faces, holding their breath, waiting for the fall. I know Hendo's only teasing, but we all like what we like and of course there are no rights and wrongs when it comes to personal taste. Thus I feel free to say that whilst I love, say, Vincent Black Lightning, I wouldn't put it in my list because - while it certainly has great dynamics - I don't think it has a strong enough melody to count as one of RT's great songs. I do like Valerio, but I actually prefer June Tabor's version of it. |
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2014, 04:29:04 PM » |
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In a stupid torpor....
Off the top of my head:
Little Beggar Girl
Poor Ditching Boy
For Shame of Doing Wrong
VBL 1952
Beeswing
MOTL
Persuasion
Dimming of the Day
Waltzings for Dreamers
Genesis Hall
Don't Sit On My Jimmy Shands
Pharaoh
Withered and Died
Ok, so it isn't 15, but so what?
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2014, 11:20:57 PM » |
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In the long run, do you think Richard will be remembered more as a song-smith or a guitarist? His talents as a musician are irrefutable, so my guess is the latter. He has written some truly great melodies and lyrics but a lot of his songs are built upon - undeniably fantastic - riffs and playing. Do they pass the old grey whistle test? Only asking. I am a huge fan  |
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2014, 06:58:35 AM » |
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In the long run, do you think Richard will be remembered more as a song-smith or a guitarist?
I think his songwriting talent will just edge it....though people will always add "plus he was a fantastic guitar player!". Jules |
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2014, 08:07:11 AM » |
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I'd probably go for guitarist - he undeniably has written some great songs, but I can think of many others who also do that. I can't think of many (any?) people who play guitar like him.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2014, 09:17:34 AM » |
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Likewise, guitarist - one of the best.
Great songwriter too, but where he'd probably be in mosts top 20 guitarists, fewer would probably have him in their top 20 songwriters overall.
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