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« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2014, 05:53:17 PM »

If there were a version of "Sloth" featuring drum solos from DM, Bruce and Gerry, would it be a "Three Toad Sloth"?  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2014, 09:04:01 AM »

'White Dress'. Too soppy- - only romantics need apply.  I think it's a Ralph McTell song, and I might even tolerate Ralph singing it, but I can't take it on Rising etc. The rest of the album is fine. Cool
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« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2014, 09:11:39 AM »


'White Dress'. Too soppy- - only romantics need apply.  I think it's a Ralph McTell song, and I might even tolerate Ralph singing it, but I can't take it on Rising etc. The rest of the album is fine. Cool


It was written by Swarb for Sandy...
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« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2014, 09:27:30 AM »


  Shocked  Shocked I think 'White dress' is utterly exquisite! I know there are many 'if only' s in the Fairport story, but I do wish Swarb and Sandy had done more in tandem - I think her version of 'It suits me well' is terrific......mind you, so is Swarb's  Fez
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« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2014, 09:32:14 AM »

A Swarb/Ralph co-composition, I believe. Ralph did a version which is fine, but I love the Sandy/FC  version. It appeals to my soppy romantic side.
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« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2014, 04:30:45 PM »



'White Dress'. Too soppy- - only romantics need apply.  I think it's a Ralph McTell song, and I might even tolerate Ralph singing it, but I can't take it on Rising etc. The rest of the album is fine. Cool


It was written by Swarb for Sandy...


I stand corrected. Ralph recorded it, but didn't write it.
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« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2014, 05:01:41 PM »




'White Dress'. Too soppy- - only romantics need apply.  I think it's a Ralph McTell song, and I might even tolerate Ralph singing it, but I can't take it on Rising etc. The rest of the album is fine. Cool


It was written by Swarb for Sandy...


I stand corrected. Ralph recorded it, but didn't write it.

Actually having checked, Ralph is on the PRS site as co writer at one stage..  Smiley
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« Reply #67 on: May 30, 2014, 05:28:23 PM »

Interesting:

The original LP lists Swarb as the composer.
The original CD issue lists it as a Swarbrick/McTell composition.
The recent CD issue reverts back to Swarbrick.

The confusion probably arose when Ralph recorded his version and altered the lyrics to be able to sing it from a man's perspective

Original:

WHITE DRESS
(Dave Swarbrick)

Feel how the wind blows, December despair
Bring me a ribbon to tie up my hair
I'll be your bride, go where you go
All of my life you'll be my beau

Chorus:
Kiss me and I might
Put on the white dress
If you'll take me dancing tonight

The night's in your face, the sky's in your eyes
The days in my arms when you're by my side
Whenever you're weary I'll sing you a song
Whenever you're lonely I'll show you you're wrong
Chorus

Come from the window, let's climb the stairs
All of my sorrows are none of your cares
While life is in us let's love all we can
I'll be your woman if you'll be my man
Chorus

Ralph's version:

WHITE DRESS
(Swarbrick/McTell)

Feel how the wind blows, December despair
Bring me a ribbon to tie back your hair
You stayed by my side, you've gone where I've gone
Don't cling to the past love, while time's moving on

Chorus:
Come and kiss me it's gonna be all right
Put on your white dress
And I'll take you dancing tonight

All of my sorrows are none of your cares
Come from the window, tread soft on the stairs
While life is in us let's love all we can
If you be my woman then I'll be your man
Chorus

And if you get weary I'll sing you this song
And if you feel lonely I'll show you you're wrong
The nights in your face, the sky's in your eyes
And the morning's before us, lets dance 'til sunrise
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« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2014, 11:18:36 AM »



  Shocked  Shocked I think 'White dress' is utterly exquisite! I know there are many 'if only' s in the Fairport story, but I do wish Swarb and Sandy had done more in tandem - I think her version of 'It suits me well' is terrific......mind you, so is Swarb's  Fez


I love 'It Suits me Well'. One of the best, if not the best, tracks on Sandy.
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« Reply #69 on: May 31, 2014, 11:57:16 AM »


I love 'It Suits me Well'. One of the best, if not the best, tracks on Sandy.  


Amen.

Best "solo" Swarb track too, IMO.

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« Reply #70 on: May 31, 2014, 04:12:48 PM »

Sloth...

A song that whenever I compile a cd of fairport stuff, it HAS to be included. And when it comes round to being played, I regularly think that I wish I hadn't included it.
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« Reply #71 on: May 31, 2014, 10:12:35 PM »


Sloth...

What you need there is the live version with Vikki Clayton on vocals in about 2000 & something.

And who said 'The Happy Man'?
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« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2014, 01:47:11 AM »


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I've always liked it. It has a great melody and it's 'like a hymn'. But - lyrically - I find it wanting. What's it actually about?
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« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2014, 02:11:33 AM »


You are right Jim, Hiring Fair is very Mills and Boon...  all that sentimentality and bodice ripping..


I beg to differ. I've never read any Mills & Boon (although I love their early stand-up stuff Wink) but I am familiar with Thomas Hardy and D.H. Lawrence and I think The Hiring Fair has much more in common with the restrained, stifled lives of the characters in some of their novels. Less bodice ripping, more turnip picking (in the mud and the rain)...

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« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2014, 09:53:37 AM »



But not liking Now Be Thankful is just wrong!   Angry


I've always liked it. It has a great melody and it's 'like a hymn'. But - lyrically - I find it wanting. What's it actually about?


I suppose it was RT's attempt to, as you say, write a hymn, just as his words on Liege & Lief had been his take on traditional folk lyrics.  I think it's about strength/faith through adversity, and the wheel of life.

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« Reply #75 on: June 01, 2014, 11:40:22 AM »


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I've always liked it. It has a great melody and it's 'like a hymn'. But - lyrically - I find it wanting. What's it actually about?


That is a question that could be levelled at any number of RT's lyrics of the period. Crazy Man Michael? Meet On The Ledge? Sloth? They are all somewhat opaque. We take from them whatever we find and maybe whatever we need.
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« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2014, 02:15:21 PM »

Nicely put, GubGub.  Cool
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« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »

 Night Time Girl ruins a potentially great album, London Danny has no place in anyone's set list, most of Sense of Occasion is not welcome, and can Neil Gow leave the building.

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« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2014, 03:05:32 PM »


Sloth...

A song that whenever I compile a cd of fairport stuff, it HAS to be included. And when it comes round to being played, I regularly think that I wish I hadn't included it.



But not always. Sometimes it fits the bill exactly.
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« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2014, 03:53:36 PM »

Why do I think it's going to say 'Just  roll and a bun', every time I hear it?

Oh, I like it. It's Fpt's 'DArk Star', after all.  Cool
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