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Thanks for the link, Mike. I don't like it. At least I don't like the production and arrangement on this version. The song itself might sound better live, though I'm not holding out much hope for it being my cup of tea in any form. So that's a -1 from me. Jules It was a transcendent thing live, especially at Cropredy with lights and smoke and Ric duetting with himself but it was never likely to appeal to your anti prog tendencies Jules. The Five Seasons was perhaps the third Fairport album I ever owned and their first release after I first saw them live so I knew and loved this stuff before I ever heard any of the "classics" except for Liege & Lief (which i didn't like to begin with because it did not resemble the band that I was familiar with). I still find The Wounded Whale hugely moving and wish the band could find a way to play it now. |
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Never heard it live but I will throw my hat in for the like column as well. Perfect song for Simon's voice and I love how the music builds up as the song progresses. The Five Seasons is a Fairport album I can say I still have in 3 formats- Cassette, Vinyl and CD  |
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« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2014, 02:49:17 PM » |
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I tried to convince myself I liked it (and the album) at the time, but I didn't really...as illustrated by the fact I've played virtually none of those albums in the intervening decades. I always pencilled it in as a 'loo break' song during the 4 hour sets of the early 90's. Very dated now - much more so than that which came so much earlier. Still, at least it sounds like a band pushing on as a creative unit, unlike so much of what followed...  |
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« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2014, 03:13:10 PM » |
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I tried to convince myself I liked it (and the album) at the time, but I didn't really...as illustrated by the fact I've played virtually none of those albums in the intervening decades. I always pencilled it in as a 'loo break' song during the 4 hour sets of the early 90's. Very dated now - much more so than that which came so much earlier. Still, at least it sounds like a band pushing on as a creative unit, unlike so much of what followed... That is more or less the last one that I really like beginning to end. I'm not actually that keen on Red & Gold which preceded it. Jewel In The Crown has many admirers but I find it patchy. I enjoy most of WKWTTG and about three quarters of Festival Bell. Otherwise it is just the odd track here and there. It may be because 1990 is more or less where I came in with Fairport and it may be that "new" things still had the capacity to lodge in my consciousness that I have lost as I have got older but The Five Seasons had several cracking tracks that have remained personal favourites ( Claudy Banks, Sock In It, Gold, Mock Morris 90) that formed the core of the set of the band that first impressed me when I originally encountered them. Ultimately I fell more in love with much of their back catalogue more but that did not stop me from enjoying this material too. I am not sure sometimes what the concept of "dated" means when it comes to music. Autobahn sounds dated. That does not stop it from being a classic. Sometimes the sound of a recording makes it very clear when the recording dates from. That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable. |
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« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2014, 03:38:20 PM » |
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I am not sure sometimes what the concept of "dated" means when it comes to music. Autobahn sounds dated. That does not stop it from being a classic. Sometimes the sound of a recording makes it very clear when the recording dates from. That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable.
Good point, well made. I suppose what people tend to mean by "dated" though, is "dated badly". E.g. that horrible 80s drum sound, or those even more horrible 80s synths. Nobody has quite the same venom for those really-still-quite-nice 60s guitars. Jules |
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« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2014, 04:08:08 PM » |
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I am not sure sometimes what the concept of "dated" means when it comes to music. Autobahn sounds dated. That does not stop it from being a classic. Sometimes the sound of a recording makes it very clear when the recording dates from. That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable.
..... E.g. that horrible 80s drum sound, or those even more horrible 80s synths. Jules Mr "Eighties Man" Bridgwit would totally disagree with you there!  |
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« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2014, 05:42:59 PM » |
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Mr "Eighties Man" Bridgwit would totally disagree with you there! I realised a long time ago, Bridg, that we disagree more about music (and politics) than we agree. Luckily you're nice and also quite funny, so I've decided to let you off.  Jules |
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« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2014, 09:42:21 PM » |
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I am not sure sometimes what the concept of "dated" means when it comes to music. Autobahn sounds dated. That does not stop it from being a classic. Sometimes the sound of a recording makes it very clear when the recording dates from. That doesn't stop it from being enjoyable.
Good point, well made. I suppose what people tend to mean by "dated" though, is "dated badly". E.g. that horrible 80s drum sound, or those even more horrible 80s synths. Nobody has quite the same venom for those really-still-quite-nice 60s guitars. Jules I mainly agree Jules BUT I still love and think that Marianne Faithful's,' Broken English' (1980) is a seminal album.......synths, drum sound and all. Rather than dated, it is of it's time. |
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« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2014, 10:10:33 PM » |
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I mainly agree Jules BUT I still love and think that Marianne Faithful's,' Broken English' (1980) is a seminal album.......synths, drum sound and all. Rather than dated, it is of it's time.
Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago. I really never listen to Red and Gold, Five Seasons, or Jewel in the Crown any more. I have to say that in general, I prefer Chris-era FC to Maart-era. But to make my heart soar, there's nothing beats that version of A Sailor's Life from IACRA, at least once June Tabor has relinquished the mic. |
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« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2014, 06:35:10 PM » |
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Mr "Eighties Man" Bridgwit would totally disagree with you there! I realised a long time ago, Bridg, that we disagree more about music (and politics) than we agree. Luckily you're nice and also quite funny, so I've decided to let you off. Jules Just seen this (been away). Thank you kind Sir that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me on a forum! Chuffed  |
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« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2014, 11:41:39 AM » |
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I mainly agree Jules BUT I still love and think that Marianne Faithful's,' Broken English' (1980) is a seminal album.......synths, drum sound and all. Rather than dated, it is of it's time.
Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago. I really never listen to Red and Gold, Five Seasons, or Jewel in the Crown any more. I have to say that in general, I prefer Chris-era FC to Maart-era. But to make my heart soar, there's nothing beats that version of A Sailor's Life from IACRA, at least once June Tabor has relinquished the mic. Sorry to be totally thick, but I'm scratching my head trying to work out what IACRA stands for. I know that as soon as I'm told it will be a 'D'oh!' moment. |
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« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2014, 11:51:48 AM » |
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I mainly agree Jules BUT I still love and think that Marianne Faithful's,' Broken English' (1980) is a seminal album.......synths, drum sound and all. Rather than dated, it is of it's time.
Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago. I really never listen to Red and Gold, Five Seasons, or Jewel in the Crown any more. I have to say that in general, I prefer Chris-era FC to Maart-era. But to make my heart soar, there's nothing beats that version of A Sailor's Life from IACRA, at least once June Tabor has relinquished the mic. Sorry to be totally thick, but I'm scratching my head trying to work out what IACRA stands for. I know that as soon as I'm told it will be a 'D'oh!' moment. . It was a film that was made about the 1987 Cropredy festival and the 20th anniversary of the band generally. It was released on VHS by Island records and is overdue a DVD release but I doubt that will ever happen. |
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« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2014, 02:33:22 PM » |
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Was glad that it did go up on Youtube as I am deathly afraid to put my vhs copy in the player anymore, and I still enjoy this one. |
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« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2014, 05:12:13 PM » |
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Thanks - IAMSN (It all makes sense now!! ) |
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« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2014, 06:03:08 PM » |
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Was glad that it did go up on Youtube as I am deathly afraid to put my vhs copy in the player anymore, and I still enjoy this one. Watched this rockumentary for the first time the other day. Enjoyed it, but a little strange watching with the benefit of the last 27 or so years' hindsight. |
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« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2014, 01:59:54 AM » |
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Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago.
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« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2014, 10:04:59 PM » |
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Five......Gub, Hendo, Me, Mark C, PJayBe.......do I hear six?
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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2014, 10:12:05 PM » |
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Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago.
Absolutely LOVE that album. Very spiritual. And completely unexpected from that band at the time it came out. Couldn't play it enough back then. Soaring heart indeed. Do you know Laughing Stock and Mark Hollis' solo album too...they are (in my mind if not in anybody else's) very much a trilogy... All works of genius to my mind. Some of the best music ever made. |
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2014, 06:43:31 PM » |
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Off-topic admittedly, but an 80s album that really makes the heart soar is Talk Talk's Spirit of Eden. I can't believe I only heard it for the first time just over a year ago.
Absolutely LOVE that album. Very spiritual. And completely unexpected from that band at the time it came out. Couldn't play it enough back then. Soaring heart indeed. Do you know Laughing Stock and Mark Hollis' solo album too...they are (in my mind if not in anybody else's) very much a trilogy... All works of genius to my mind. Some of the best music ever made. Like. |
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