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« on: October 14, 2014, 03:17:16 PM » |
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Two entirely unrelated mentions of FC in The Guardian today. P9 and 39.
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2014, 03:29:21 PM » |
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Two entirely unrelated mentions of FC in The Guardian today. P9 and 39.
Go on, then...give us a clue! |
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PLW (Peter)
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2014, 04:24:06 PM » |
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I think you've misread that. The morris man was excited about meeting Chris Leslie. More so than meeting Cameron was his point. |
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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2014, 04:27:56 PM » |
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I think you've misread that. The morris man was excited about meeting Chris Leslie. More so than meeting Cameron was his point. I agree, although it's open to (mis)interpretation (like the blacked up faces, clearly!). |
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Sandra
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2014, 05:00:39 PM » |
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I read it that the morris dancer was more pleased to have seen Chris Leslie. Cameron can't stay away from local festivals it seems. He's a regular at the nearby Cornbury festival (with his mate Clarkson) - in the VIP area obviously.
A good obituary for Andrew. There have been some lovely tributes to him in the local press and online communities here in Glastonbury by those that knew him. I had the pleasure of having a long chat reminiscing with him about the 1971 Glastonbury festival at the 2011 one. He was so delighted at finding someone who had been there at the beginning. A lovely man who will be missed around here. I think some other TAWers knew him also.
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MikeB (Mike)
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2014, 11:08:51 PM » |
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I think you've misread that. The morris man was excited about meeting Chris Leslie. More so than meeting Cameron was his point. I did indeed misread things, sorry about that. |
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PLW (Peter)
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2014, 11:20:15 AM » |
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I read it that the morris dancer was more pleased to have seen Chris Leslie. Cameron can't stay away from local festivals it seems. He's a regular at the nearby Cornbury festival (with his mate Clarkson) - in the VIP area obviously.
I don't think we'll see him at Cropredy. He'd have to mix with common people there. |
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2014, 11:40:19 AM » |
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I read it that the morris dancer was more pleased to have seen Chris Leslie. Cameron can't stay away from local festivals it seems. He's a regular at the nearby Cornbury festival (with his mate Clarkson) - in the VIP area obviously.
I don't think we'll see him at Cropredy. He'd have to mix with common people there. But surely we're all in it together....................... |
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2014, 12:22:35 PM » |
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I read it that the morris dancer was more pleased to have seen Chris Leslie. Cameron can't stay away from local festivals it seems. He's a regular at the nearby Cornbury festival (with his mate Clarkson) - in the VIP area obviously.
I don't think we'll see him at Cropredy. He'd have to mix with common people there. I've met him - twice - and they don't come more common than me!  |
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2014, 01:28:38 PM » |
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"Being rude to strangers"???
Damn good write up of all things Morris, and then that?.....Sorry, I laughed.
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David W
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2014, 02:38:01 PM » |
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I guess - loike in many other things - the question is ...
If a thing is not intended as being racist BUT may be interpreted as being so is it?
And if people are upset about "blacking" up why not pink up, red up or blue with yellow dots up instead?
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Chris
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2014, 02:51:13 PM » |
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or even why not accept it isn't racist? Easy.
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PLW (Peter)
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2014, 03:28:49 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2014, 03:48:16 PM » |
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There are morris sides using blue/purple face make up and masks instead of blacking up, so these have already been thought of. However, I'm with Chris - blacking up is not meant to be racist so why regard it so. Should I have regarded my father, who was a coal miner and came home every work day with a black face as being racist? I think not. Context and intention does count.
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2014, 05:40:50 PM » |
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If someone does or says something like "all Belgians are smelly and horrible", and a few Belgians complain, but the reply came "but I don't mean it to be racist", then does that mean it's OK? And if some people black their faces and others complain saying it's racist, and they say "but we don't mean to be racist" - is that OK? If a well-known entertainer uses the stage to give a diatribe about people coming to this country and diluting the culture, but then later says in his defence "I'm just a bloke" - is that OK?
Bottom line: offence is taken, not given; and racism is a perception, not an action. But those who are accused of it have (IMHO) a responsibility to act on the accusation to avoid hurting the sensibilities of those offended.
And I don't read the Daily Mail...
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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2014, 05:48:38 PM » |
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Racism is an action, sorry.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2014, 05:49:33 PM » |
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Bottom line: offence is taken, not given; and racism is a perception, not an action. But those who are accused of it have (IMHO) a responsibility to act on the accusation to avoid hurting the sensibilities of those offended.
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Chris
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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2014, 05:56:34 PM » |
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Racism is an offence (hate crime), and thus must be able to be proved in court, thus it must be an action, not a perception.
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