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StephenB
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« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2014, 06:10:58 PM »

OK, I'll agree to that - racism can be an action as well as a perception. But you can only take offence
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2014, 06:36:59 PM »

No one has the right not to be offended, though.
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2014, 09:11:02 PM »

Quite agree - there  has to be a reasonableness about it.

I had another think about this:

"Racism is an offence (hate crime), and thus must be able to be proved in court, thus it must be an action, not a perception."

Well yes, it's an offence [action] because society, via the democratic legal process, has perceived it to be offensive enough to warrant it being criminalised.

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« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2014, 09:51:10 PM »

But has anyone ever actually been offended by blacked up morris dancers? I've certainly never heard of a case, only the PC brigade trying to stop it because it might be offensive...

Also, what has this got to do with Fairport?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 11:10:39 PM »

Here's the view from (2 of) today's Telegraph readers:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/11162018/Dont-read-racism-into-folk-dance-costumes.html
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 11:34:35 PM »

Many years ago, me and a friend were standing behind Rod Skeaping at Haddenham ceilidhs enjoying a Morris side.

My friend and I had already eaten, but a wonderful food smell kept wafting past us.

'Where's that coming from?' she asked.

'It's Moorish,' said Rod, over his shoulder.

How we all laughed...
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2014, 08:32:23 AM »



Strewth! What an ignorant Nadia...what 'social historians' might that be?
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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2014, 08:53:04 AM »




Strewth! What an ignorant Nadia...what 'social historians' might that be?


Well quite. Sources please Nadia. And their arguments, while you're at it.

The other letter, however, nails it. I'm actually a fully paid-up member of the PC brigade, and regard that as a badge of honour, but even I don't regard this as a racist practice.
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2014, 09:28:28 AM »


No one has the right not to be offended, though.

As one of those 'witticisms' that come up on facebook said,' just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right!'
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