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« Reply #120 on: January 17, 2017, 04:59:34 PM » |
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It's a bit Folk/MOR isn't it?
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« Reply #121 on: January 17, 2017, 06:29:17 PM » |
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Hmmm...first impressions are that Eleanor's dream is the strongest track by a country mile, and it will be good to have a live version of Lord Marlbourgh....
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« Reply #122 on: January 17, 2017, 07:52:10 PM » |
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i suppose i dont need to say owt
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« Reply #123 on: January 17, 2017, 08:25:21 PM » |
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i suppose i dont need to say owt
Of course you don't Jimbo.. we know what you will say...  See you at Cropredy   |
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« Reply #124 on: January 17, 2017, 09:56:00 PM » |
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Hmmm...first impressions are that Eleanor's dream is the strongest track by a country mile, and it will be good to have a live version of Lord Marlbourgh....
Having only heard snippets Adam I tend to agree but like Jim the words head and parapet come to mind. I think they were on a hiding to nothing. I will hold an opinion til I hear all the tracks all way through. |
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« Reply #125 on: January 18, 2017, 01:15:57 PM » |
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I will stick my head above the parapet. I will be happy to proved wrong but I think the problem here (judging from the samples) is going to be, the new studio tracks are going to be "more of the same" from this Fairport line up which will please some but disappoint those who prefer the greater fire in the belly of Fairports past and the live recordings are unlikely to supplant previously released performances of the same songs in anyone's affection. Which leaves the collaborations as the unique selling points.
It is just an odd concept all round and I can't help but wonder how many people, even amongst those who enjoy it, are likely to return to it after the first few listens.
For a band with the longevity of Fairport (and they are not the only one with this problem) there is only any point in releasing a new record at this point if it can compete with their existing catalogue already buckling people's shelves. This one seems unlikely to have staying power.
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« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2017, 03:13:26 PM » |
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I will stick my head above the parapet. I will be happy to proved wrong but I think the problem here (judging from the samples) is going to be, the new studio tracks are going to be "more of the same" from this Fairport line up which will please some but disappoint those who prefer the greater fire in the belly of Fairports past and the live recordings are unlikely to supplant previously released performances of the same songs in anyone's affection. Which leaves the collaborations as the unique selling points.
It is just an odd concept all round and I can't help but wonder how many people, even amongst those who enjoy it, are likely to return to it after the first few listens.
For a band with the longevity of Fairport (and they are not the only one with this problem) there is only any point in releasing a new record at this point if it can compete with their existing catalogue already buckling people's shelves. This one seems unlikely to have staying power.
Thanks, Gub, you've summed up my feelings about this new release more eloquently and diplomatically than I might've put it  |
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« Reply #127 on: January 18, 2017, 03:36:17 PM » |
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On reflection, the special "anniversary" albums that Fairport have put out over the years have been a very mixed bunch.
In Real Time (20th) - Pretty good but notoriously a fake live album.
No release (25th)
Who Knows Where The Time Goes? (30th) - A personal favourite but it has many detractors.
XXXV (35th) - Patchy at best and the start of the unfortunate tendency to recycle old songs.
A Sense Of Occasion (40th) - Generally reckoned to be one of the band's recording nadirs.
By Popular Request (45th) - Surprisingly successful and well liked, given the concept of the project and holds up well.
50/50@50 (50th) - An unsatisfying curate's egg???
I wonder if this is partly down to the pressure to produce new product in their banner years affecting the quality control.
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« Reply #128 on: January 18, 2017, 10:10:43 PM » |
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I will stick my head above the parapet. I will be happy to proved wrong but I think the problem here (judging from the samples) is going to be, the new studio tracks are going to be "more of the same" from this Fairport line up which will please some but disappoint those who prefer the greater fire in the belly of Fairports past and the live recordings are unlikely to supplant previously released performances of the same songs in anyone's affection. Which leaves the collaborations as the unique selling points.
It is just an odd concept all round and I can't help but wonder how many people, even amongst those who enjoy it, are likely to return to it after the first few listens.
For a band with the longevity of Fairport (and they are not the only one with this problem) there is only any point in releasing a new record at this point if it can compete with their existing catalogue already buckling people's shelves. This one seems unlikely to have staying power.
Thanks, Gub, you've summed up my feelings about this new release more eloquently and diplomatically than I might've put it Ditto |
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« Reply #129 on: January 19, 2017, 12:04:38 AM » |
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On reflection, the special "anniversary" albums that Fairport have put out over the years have been a very mixed bunch.
In Real Time (20th) - Pretty good but notoriously a fake live album.
No release (25th)
Who Knows Where The Time Goes? (30th) - A personal favourite but it has many detractors.
XXXV (35th) - Patchy at best and the start of the unfortunate tendency to recycle old songs.
A Sense Of Occasion (40th) - Generally reckoned to be one of the band's recording nadirs.
By Popular Request (45th) - Surprisingly successful and well liked, given the concept of the project and holds up well.
50/50@50 (50th) - An unsatisfying curate's egg???
I wonder if this is partly down to the pressure to produce new product in their banner years affecting the quality control.
In Real Time is easily my favourite from those |
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« Reply #130 on: January 19, 2017, 12:26:00 AM » |
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Each to his own.
I find that I really like the sample tracks and have bought the CD.
Fairports have always had a gentle edge and the musicianship is always there too. Right from tracks like "to althea from Prison","Banks of Primroses" and "Hiring Fair". They do it so well.
I also like love the idea of a Cropredy Tribute Song, because Cropredy is my Adult Christmas.
Lets allow ourselves room to differ.
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« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2017, 01:15:22 AM » |
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Each to his own.
I find that I really like the sample tracks and have bought the CD.
Fairports have always had a gentle edge and the musicianship is always there too. Right from tracks like "to althea from Prison","Banks of Primroses" and "Hiring Fair". They do it so well.
I also like love the idea of a Cropredy Tribute Song, because Cropredy is my Adult Christmas.
Lets allow ourselves room to differ.
I don't think we're differing Trev. As Al said , this album is more of the same from this incarnation of Fairport. Some will like it, some won't. |
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« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2017, 08:17:26 AM » |
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On reflection, the special "anniversary" albums that Fairport have put out over the years have been a very mixed bunch.
In Real Time (20th) - Pretty good but notoriously a fake live album.
No release (25th)
Who Knows Where The Time Goes? (30th) - A personal favourite but it has many detractors.
XXXV (35th) - Patchy at best and the start of the unfortunate tendency to recycle old songs.
A Sense Of Occasion (40th) - Generally reckoned to be one of the band's recording nadirs.
By Popular Request (45th) - Surprisingly successful and well liked, given the concept of the project and holds up well.
50/50@50 (50th) - An unsatisfying curate's egg???
I wonder if this is partly down to the pressure to produce new product in their banner years affecting the quality control.
In Real Time is easily my favourite from those In Real Time is excellent (fake live album or not, most "live" albums have been tweaked, but that's a topic worthy of its own thread) - have actually just re-purchased a digital copy to replace my cassette ! WKWTTG is pretty good - about 3/4s of a good album, currently out of print, I believe and quite underrated. John Gaudie, The Bowman's Retreat, The Golden Glove, and Dangerous stand out, not to mention Ric's marvellous twin fiddle arrangement of WKWTTG that they play to this day. XXXV isn't bad - a couple of duffers on there but My Love Is In America and Everything But The Skirl are essentials. A Sense Of Occasion - half a good album struggling to get out. Hawkwood's Army and The Bowman's Return are highlights. Their attempt to make Best Wishes the new Meet On The Ledge, however, was a bit of a misstep. By Popular Request had a good selection of tracks, but check my quote earlier in this very thread about the auto-tuned vocals. 50:50@50 - I'll buy it and reserve judgement until I've heard the whole thing. As I've said, Gub sums up the nature of this release very well. |
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« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2017, 05:39:13 PM » |
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OK, here goes.
I listened to the samp!es hoping something off the new materia! would grab me.
Unfortunately nothing did. It all sounds the same as the background music that fills the last half dozen albums.
Yes, it is well played. Nobody disputes the musical ability of any of the chaps. Its just it all sounds so familiar.
They need to go to Steve Albini or some other producer with no history of folk music to make a record that souds different, maybe even surprising, and possibly record it together rather than their current modus operandi which Ha's !ead to a!bums which all sound identical to each other.
So my incomplete set of FC records will be a bit more incomplete!
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« Reply #134 on: January 19, 2017, 11:16:15 PM » |
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« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2017, 11:18:32 PM » |
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Nothing alleged about it. He is on it. |
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« Reply #136 on: January 19, 2017, 11:25:28 PM » |
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Nothing alleged about it. He is on it. The source I got it from is clearly out-of-date then Philip |
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« Reply #137 on: January 20, 2017, 09:56:03 AM » |
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Nothing alleged about it. He is on it. The source I got it from is clearly out-of-date then Philip Allegedly..... |
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« Reply #138 on: January 20, 2017, 11:58:08 AM » |
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I'm quite looking forward to this. I really Like XXXV. so this could be a goodun
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« Reply #139 on: January 20, 2017, 12:09:42 PM » |
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I'm quite looking forward to this. I really Like XXXV. so this could be a goodun
Oh thank goodness... at last a positive comment! |
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