Staffan
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« Reply #240 on: February 01, 2017, 04:25:32 PM » |
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" -I was 16 now and full of life..."
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« Reply #241 on: February 02, 2017, 08:25:40 PM » |
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Right i've listened to the new cd so i can now have an informed view of it. The live tracks are all pretty superfluous,not adding anything to the versions already out there. The Plant track is ok but not much more. Chris's original songs are, still i think' more suited to his solo work varying as they do from toe curling (devils work,our bus, summer by the cherwell) to decent (Eleanors dream) it smacks of a rush job, they needed a new record out for the wintour so padded a few new songs out with old material. Yes its well played, we are all aware of their musical chops but it just feels empty sorry that's as positive as i can be about it. Yet again i feel disappointed by another FC release, i really want them to do a great record again but it just isn't happening for me anymore.
Jim, I haven't got album but I read somewhere(!) that Summer by the Cherwell is written by PJ Wright, very much in the style of Chris.
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« Reply #242 on: February 02, 2017, 08:54:01 PM » |
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Right i've listened to the new cd so i can now have an informed view of it. The live tracks are all pretty superfluous,not adding anything to the versions already out there. The Plant track is ok but not much more. Chris's original songs are, still i think' more suited to his solo work varying as they do from toe curling (devils work,our bus, summer by the cherwell) to decent (Eleanors dream) it smacks of a rush job, they needed a new record out for the wintour so padded a few new songs out with old material. Yes its well played, we are all aware of their musical chops but it just feels empty sorry that's as positive as i can be about it. Yet again i feel disappointed by another FC release, i really want them to do a great record again but it just isn't happening for me anymore.
Jim, I haven't got album but I read somewhere(!) that Summer by the Cherwell is written by PJ Wright, very much in the style of Chris. yes, you are quite correct, my mistake i hadn't looked at the songwriting credits
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hendo (Dave)
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« Reply #243 on: February 03, 2017, 08:45:53 AM » |
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Right i've listened to the new cd so i can now have an informed view of it. The live tracks are all pretty superfluous,not adding anything to the versions already out there. The Plant track is ok but not much more. Chris's original songs are, still i think' more suited to his solo work varying as they do from toe curling (devils work,our bus, summer by the cherwell) to decent (Eleanors dream) it smacks of a rush job, they needed a new record out for the wintour so padded a few new songs out with old material. Yes its well played, we are all aware of their musical chops but it just feels empty sorry that's as positive as i can be about it. Yet again i feel disappointed by another FC release, i really want them to do a great record again but it just isn't happening for me anymore.
Jim, I haven't got album but I read somewhere(!) that Summer by the Cherwell is written by PJ Wright, very much in the style of Chris. yes, you are quite correct, my mistake i hadn't looked at the songwriting credits Soz Jim. Wasn't scoring points. I was just a bit sad that PJ was writing in that style.
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« Reply #244 on: February 03, 2017, 08:56:11 AM » |
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Soz Jim. Wasn't scoring points. I was just a bit sad that PJ was writing in that style.
Maybe, after years of us wanting him in the role, he really does want the gig after all...
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« Reply #245 on: February 03, 2017, 10:06:37 AM » |
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Soz Jim. Wasn't scoring points. I was just a bit sad that PJ was writing in that style.
Maybe, after years of us wanting him in the role, he really does want the gig after all... ah, but they wont want to split the take 6 ways
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« Reply #246 on: February 04, 2017, 07:47:02 PM » |
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I had this on in the car for most the week for the commute. It's OK. The opening track is almost folk rock, and the live tracks are enjoyable. I can't actually remember the new tracks, although the one about the bus was pretty... bad.
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hendo (Dave)
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« Reply #247 on: February 04, 2017, 10:00:23 PM » |
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I had this on in the car for most the week for the commute. It's OK. The opening track is almost folk rock, and the live tracks are enjoyable. I can't actually remember the new tracks, although the one about the bus was pretty... bad.
I know I have been told to be positive and supportive ....but...... We are celebrating 50 years of the creators of Folk Rock.. To hear the album described as having one track that is 'almost folk rock.' is very sad to me and really damning with faint praise.
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« Reply #248 on: February 05, 2017, 08:05:50 AM » |
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I had this on in the car for most the week for the commute. It's OK. The opening track is almost folk rock, and the live tracks are enjoyable. I can't actually remember the new tracks, although the one about the bus was pretty... bad.
I know I have been told to be positive and supportive ....but...... We are celebrating 50 years of the creators of Folk Rock.. To hear the album described as having one track that is 'almost folk rock.' is very sad to me and really damning with faint praise. I agree with that statement wholeheartedly Dave, but surely the title 'Creators of Folk Rock' belongs to The Byrds?
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« Reply #249 on: February 05, 2017, 08:44:47 AM » |
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I had this on in the car for most the week for the commute. It's OK. The opening track is almost folk rock, and the live tracks are enjoyable. I can't actually remember the new tracks, although the one about the bus was pretty... bad.
I know I have been told to be positive and supportive ....but...... We are celebrating 50 years of the creators of Folk Rock.. To hear the album described as having one track that is 'almost folk rock.' is very sad to me and really damning with faint praise. Add an 'English' in there if it makes you feel better. Can't raise a smile myself, mind. I'm even feeling pretty gloomy about the May gig. I agree with that statement wholeheartedly Dave, but surely the title 'Creators of Folk Rock' belongs to The Byrds?
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hendo (Dave)
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« Reply #250 on: February 05, 2017, 09:32:48 AM » |
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I had this on in the car for most the week for the commute. It's OK. The opening track is almost folk rock, and the live tracks are enjoyable. I can't actually remember the new tracks, although the one about the bus was pretty... bad.
I know I have been told to be positive and supportive ....but...... We are celebrating 50 years of the creators of Folk Rock.. To hear the album described as having one track that is 'almost folk rock.' is very sad to me and really damning with faint praise. I agree with that statement wholeheartedly Dave, but surely the title 'Creators of Folk Rock' belongs to The Byrds? Alternative Fact!
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StephenB
something about the grinding beat
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« Reply #251 on: February 05, 2017, 10:17:10 AM » |
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British traditional folk rock...
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« Reply #252 on: February 05, 2017, 10:27:52 AM » |
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British traditional folk rock...
This from The Byrds third album recorded between January and May 1966. Nobody could deny that this isn't folk rock, at least 2 years before FC's first album. https://youtu.be/Fe5V3-sWQeA
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« Reply #253 on: February 05, 2017, 10:43:05 AM » |
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Why are we so scared of saying 'English' these days?
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StephenB
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« Reply #254 on: February 05, 2017, 11:11:54 AM » |
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I'm not a bit scared of saying English - but a fair portion of it has strong Scottish roots. (Tam Lin, for a start)...
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« Reply #255 on: February 05, 2017, 02:18:22 PM » |
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I think we've agreed on a suitable musicaldescription for them these days back up the thread, which I pretty much agree with.
From a personal point of view, all the comparing to the old band each time there's something new comes along is getting quite tiresome. In this line-up, I think we've agreed they'll not revert to the old style, so simply repeating your comparison/dislike etc is a little pointless? Just repetively saying you prefer the old?...come on, there must be something new to say?
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« Reply #256 on: February 05, 2017, 03:05:42 PM » |
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We were discussing what genre they created originally - not quite the same....
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LarWes
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« Reply #257 on: February 05, 2017, 03:41:31 PM » |
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British traditional folk rock...
This from The Byrds third album recorded between January and May 1966. Nobody could deny that this isn't folk rock, at least 2 years before FC's first album. https://youtu.be/Fe5V3-sWQeAYes. And from the same album this old song. Scottish, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEwqhaikDmg
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« Reply #258 on: February 05, 2017, 05:53:21 PM » |
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Correct, my Swedish pal!
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« Reply #259 on: February 05, 2017, 08:19:12 PM » |
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...come on, there must be something new to say?j
Is something I would say to the band! DW
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