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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 09:30:41 AM » |
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Steve Hogarth has apologised (within about 48 hours of the event) for being over-refreshed during Marillion's 2017 appearance :
"First of all, I apologise for the language. I did wake up in the middle of the night on Saturday in a cold sweat over some of the things I’d said from the stage. You’re right - I could have done without resorting to the f word quite so much.
I live fairly local to the village of Cropredy and quite a few of my friends are farmers, so those comments were meant in fun and in their direction. I received texts later from one or two of them and they took my jibes in the spirit I had meant them"
Being drunk is a great excuse, I used it once or twice myself when I did stupid things drunk, but his mean attitude, his nastiness and his continual insults directed toward Fairport and indeed Cropredy were beyond apology. IMHO. You have to ask why he is appearing |
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2022, 10:43:10 AM » |
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Steve Hogarth has apologised (within about 48 hours of the event) for being over-refreshed during Marillion's 2017 appearance :
"First of all, I apologise for the language. I did wake up in the middle of the night on Saturday in a cold sweat over some of the things I’d said from the stage. You’re right - I could have done without resorting to the f word quite so much.
I live fairly local to the village of Cropredy and quite a few of my friends are farmers, so those comments were meant in fun and in their direction. I received texts later from one or two of them and they took my jibes in the spirit I had meant them"
Being drunk is a great excuse, I used it once or twice myself when I did stupid things drunk, but his mean attitude, his nastiness and his continual insults directed toward Fairport and indeed Cropredy were beyond apology. IMHO. You have to ask why he is appearing Andy, I will admit to being disappointed at Mr Hogarth's drunken demeanour in 2017. I don't really enjoy seeing musicians, whoever they are, teetering on the edge of capability. Each to their own - some artists are well-oiled drinking machines, but don't show it or appear that way in front their audience. Basic professionalism. As for why Hogarth is appearing, I'm not sure Cropredy powers that be have any authority over who the guest vocalists are in Trevor Horn's band. I'm sure Mr Horn will keep him on a reasonably tight leash, he's not one to suffer fools... |
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2022, 11:09:55 AM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2022, 11:21:46 AM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
As Dan rightly points out, who Trevor wants singing in his band is no concern of the management... |
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2022, 12:17:06 PM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
As Dan rightly points out, who Trevor wants singing in his band is no concern of the management... More likely to do with who is available than anything else. Artists are on catch-up for all those missed gigs - Marillion don't go on tour until September so he's free. I doubt Fairport specifically asked for him but let's not write him off before the field has even been cleared of cows. At least try and enjoy yourselves - it's been two years! |
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2022, 12:47:11 PM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
As Dan rightly points out, who Trevor wants singing in his band is no concern of the management... More likely to do with who is available than anything else. Artists are on catch-up for all those missed gigs - Marillion don't go on tour until September so he's free. I doubt Fairport specifically asked for him but let's not write him off before the field has even been cleared of cows. At least try and enjoy yourselves - it's been two years! Well said! |
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« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2022, 12:56:25 PM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
As Dan rightly points out, who Trevor wants singing in his band is no concern of the management... More likely to do with who is available than anything else. Artists are on catch-up for all those missed gigs - Marillion don't go on tour until September so he's free. I doubt Fairport specifically asked for him but let's not write him off before the field has even been cleared of cows. At least try and enjoy yourselves - it's been two years! Well said! three actually   |
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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2022, 03:01:02 PM » |
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Or it would seem to me that someone in Fairport has an obsession with Marillion - they can't seem to keep them away.
Which is ok for fans of Marillion, but....
As Dan rightly points out, who Trevor wants singing in his band is no concern of the management... More likely to do with who is available than anything else. Artists are on catch-up for all those missed gigs - Marillion don't go on tour until September so he's free. I doubt Fairport specifically asked for him but let's not write him off before the field has even been cleared of cows. At least try and enjoy yourselves - it's been two years! Well said! three actually Even more reason to enjoy ourselves! We've got some catching up to do too  |
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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2022, 12:05:04 AM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2022, 09:23:24 AM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
Or Shane?? I once saw him fall over and get stuck between an amp and the drum riser. |
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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2022, 03:48:50 PM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2022, 03:50:59 PM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
Or Rory Gallagher. Only time I saw Rory he was in an appalling state, poor bloke (Folkestone, 80s). I also saw an absolutely awful Gil Scott Heron gig (Canterbury, 90s), when he too was very ill. Disappointing. |
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2022, 01:26:41 PM » |
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Official Cropredy 2022 playlist is up on Spotify; some great stuff on there which has really whetted my appetite. I really like the Trevor Horn version of It’s different for Girls, featuring Steve Hogarth on vocals (ducks and runs away!)
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2022, 02:02:52 PM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
Or Rory Gallagher. I also saw an absolutely awful Gil Scott Heron gig (Canterbury, 90s), when he too was very ill. Disappointing. I must have been lucky, then. I saw him three times in the 70s - on top form every time. |
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2022, 02:20:26 PM » |
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Did anyone see John Martyn in any other state ...not sure I would have wanted to see him 100% sober , wouldn't you feel let down , same with The Faces I imagine
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2022, 03:17:27 PM » |
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Did anyone see John Martyn in any other state ...not sure I would have wanted to see him 100% sober , wouldn't you feel let down , same with The Faces I imagine
I saw him in Edinburgh in '86 but as I'd been in the pub between leaving work and the start of the gig I don't think I would have been in any position to pass judgement on his sobriety or otherwise. Must have a look on setlist.fm and see what he played on that tour. |
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2022, 04:42:24 PM » |
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Did anyone see John Martyn in any other state ...not sure I would have wanted to see him 100% sober , wouldn't you feel let down , same with The Faces I imagine
When I saw him supporting Sandy in the early 70's , he walked on stage with his guitar, a crate of Guiness and a spliff. |
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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2022, 05:01:38 PM » |
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Well if the last performance by the Trevor Horn Band is anything to go by, the guest vocalist will only be on for three or four songs, so I wouldn't get too worried about it.
As for being drunk onstage, Hogarth has nothing on John Martyn, or even Peggy (who, I'll grant you, hides it well).
Or Rory Gallagher. I saw Rory loads of times and he was never the worse for drink as far as I could tell |
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« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2022, 06:55:01 PM » |
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Saw Ian McCulloch of Echo & the Bunnymen fame a few years back, totally off his trolley. He forgot his words, swore at the audience & at a bemused Ian Brodie who was meant to be accompanying him on the guitar but gave up half way through with a shrug. He was appalling.
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We bought John Martyn a pint after his gig about a year before he passed - just keeping him topped up while he held court. Great gig in a little 50 seater venue.
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