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« Reply #260 on: June 24, 2022, 11:07:53 PM »


It's Hard (40th Anniversary Edition) - The Who

On listening to this today I realised that, not only was it the only Who album I didn't own but I had never actually heard it all the way through before. I now recogise that it is both not as bad but also worse than its reputation.

I'm amazed that they thought Athena would make a good single as it is kind of a mess and One At A Time may be the worst (and most excruciating) thing they ever recorded. There are also some production and performance decisions that don't serve the songs well. The revelation is that all of the four bonus tracks are rather good and their use in place of the originally released versions would improve the album immeasurably. The Roger vocal Eminence Front is splendid and stomps all over Pete's demo quality vocal on the original. Conversely the frail quality of Pete's lead on One Life's Enough adds a touching vulnerability that isn't there on the Roger fronted version. The early mix of Cry If You Want is massive improvement over the heavily processed album version. All in all I would reconfigure the album as follows for an improved listening experience.

1. Dangerous (1997 Unedited Mix)
2. Cook's County
3. It's Your Turn
4. It's Hard
5. Eminence Front (Vocal: Roger & Pete)
6. I've Known No War
7. One Life's Enough (Vocal: Pete)
8. Why Did I Fall For That?
9. A Man Is A Man
10. Cry If You Want (Early Alternative Mix)


Thanks Gub. Hugely enjoyable and informative write up. 👍
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« Reply #261 on: June 25, 2022, 08:18:38 AM »

R J McKenree - Villager

One of those fictional conceits (from the Tom Cox novel Villager), but a really bloody good one.

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« Reply #262 on: June 25, 2022, 08:49:51 AM »

'Wallflower" is indeed excellent. Possibly my favourite 'new' release of the year  Cheesy
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« Reply #263 on: June 25, 2022, 10:49:35 AM »


Blair Dunlop is a fan of Henry's and Iain Matthews has 2 of Katie's CD's

I like "Edge Of The Land " a lot , but as David says do not underestimate Henry Parker , I think he too has a very bright future , such a good guitar player

Also thought I'd listen to some Roy Harper today not a name you see mentioned on here that often
 "Bullinamingvase"


I like RH rather a lot,  and haven't played Bullinamingvase for some time.  I think for me, personally,  it's too tied to a particular era, and a time in my life which I dont like to revisit.  Ditto Lifemask, which nevertheless is one of his finest albums, imo.
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« Reply #264 on: June 25, 2022, 01:47:16 PM »


Thanks Gub. Hugely enjoyable and informative write up. 👍


Seconded.

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« Reply #265 on: June 25, 2022, 01:50:02 PM »



Also thought I'd listen to some Roy Harper today not a name you see mentioned on here that often
 "Bullinamingvase"


I like RH rather a lot,  and haven't played Bullinamingvase for some time.  I think for me, personally,  it's too tied to a particular era, and a time in my life which I dont like to revisit.  Ditto Lifemask, which nevertheless is one of his finest albums, imo.


I've been playing shed loads of Roy lately, as well as learning to play a few of his songs.  Recently bought the Roy Harper book in the  Every Album, Every Song (On Track) series, which got me well and truly back into him.

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« Reply #266 on: June 26, 2022, 10:53:47 AM »




Also thought I'd listen to some Roy Harper today not a name you see mentioned on here that often
 "Bullinamingvase"


I like RH rather a lot,  and haven't played Bullinamingvase for some time.  I think for me, personally,  it's too tied to a particular era, and a time in my life which I dont like to revisit.  Ditto Lifemask, which nevertheless is one of his finest albums, imo.


I've been playing shed loads of Roy lately, as well as learning to play a few of his songs.  Recently bought the Roy Harper book in the  Every Album, Every Song (On Track) series, which got me well and truly back into him.

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I dont think there's really a bad RH album out there. Respect to you for trying to pkay his songs.
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« Reply #267 on: June 26, 2022, 12:12:49 PM »


I dont think there's really a bad RH album out there.


Commercial Breaks
Work of Heart


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« Reply #268 on: June 26, 2022, 05:12:06 PM »



I dont think there's really a bad RH album out there.


Commercial Breaks
Work of Heart


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Commercial Breaks i don't really count as an album.

Work of Heart i like, though its the least Harper ish album he's done.  I took a while to come round to Descendants of Smith, but I really like it now. Loony on the zBus, again, isn't really a proper album, but has its moments.
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« Reply #269 on: June 26, 2022, 05:41:29 PM »

My favourite discovery from this year's Glastonbury:  Big Thief.  Didn't know them I'm ashamed to say.  Loved their set (available on iPlayer).
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« Reply #270 on: June 26, 2022, 06:00:54 PM »


Commercial Breaks i don't really count as an album.

Work of Heart i like, though its the least Harper ish album he's done.  I took a while to come round to Descendants of Smith, but I really like it now. Loony on the Bus, again, isn't really a proper album, but has its moments.


I didn't realise that I had to find out what you reckon is a "proper album" before nominating candidates.  Grin

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« Reply #271 on: June 26, 2022, 07:01:48 PM »



Taken David's advice and spent a few hours this morning given Katie Spencer's music a proper listen. It's confirmed the opinion I formed when I saw her live at the GBFF. Well made, certainly, but not to my taste. To damn it with faint praise, it came across as pleasant background music. Oh well, can't like everything, I suppose.

Bought tickets for next January's GBFF, the other day so I've also been listening to the performers in the line-up, I haven't heard. Adam Beattie, The Mathers Robinson Band and Fred's House have been particularly enjoyable. Looks like I'm going to need a decent CD budget.  Smiley


In the same way as Sandy Denny is pleasant background music, I'm guessing?


 I don't mind a little Sandy Denny when I'm in the right mood.  Smiley
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« Reply #272 on: June 27, 2022, 09:49:49 AM »



Commercial Breaks i don't really count as an album.

Work of Heart i like, though its the least Harper ish album he's done.  I took a while to come round to Descendants of Smith, but I really like it now. Loony on the Bus, again, isn't really a proper album, but has its moments.


I didn't realise that I had to find out what you reckon is a "proper album" before nominating candidates.  Grin

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Maybe I was being subjective. i did a quick search and learned Commercial Breaks was recorded at the end of the 70s and not released till 1994. So I suppose I wonder what was wrong with it. I do know it has merited  fewer plays than almost any RH album in my collection.  Loony on the Bus, according to Wikipedia, comprises demo tracks, and RH released it to raise money to start his own company.

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« Reply #273 on: June 27, 2022, 11:10:18 AM »


Maybe I was being subjective. i did a quick search and learned Commercial Breaks was recorded at the end of the 70s and not released till 1994. So I suppose I wonder what was wrong with it. I do know it has merited  fewer plays than almost any RH album in my collection.  Loony on the Bus, according to Wikipedia, comprises demo tracks, and RH released it to raise money to start his own company.  


Yes, in fact both records comprise many of the same tracks. He was working in sub-par studios with less than stellar material. He sabotaged the release of Commercial Breaks in 1978, but stuck some of it out on the heinous Loony record, as you say, to make some money to finance his next record, before finally allowing the whole record to come out as originally intended.

The best songs on it were rerecorded for The Unknown Soldier.

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Maybe I was being subjective. i did a quick search and learned Commercial Breaks was recorded at the end of the 70s and not released till 1994. So I suppose I wonder what was wrong with it. I do know it has merited  fewer plays than almost any RH album in my collection.  Loony on the Bus, according to Wikipedia, comprises demo tracks, and RH released it to raise money to start his own company.  


Yes, in fact both records comprise many of the same tracks. He was working in sub-par studios with less than stellar material. He sabotaged the release of Commercial Breaks in 1978, but stuck some of it out on the heinous Loony record, as you say, to make some money to finance his next record, before finally allowing the whole record to come out as originally intended.

The best songs on it were rerecorded for The Unknown Soldier.

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Which is a very good album, imo. I intend to give Commercial Breaks a listen this evening,  to see how good or awful it is 🙂
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« Reply #275 on: June 27, 2022, 01:11:22 PM »


I intend to give Commercial Breaks a listen this evening,  to see how good or awful it is 🙂


Expect to be underwhelmed.

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« Reply #276 on: June 29, 2022, 09:33:16 AM »



I intend to give Commercial Breaks a listen this evening,  to see how good or awful it is 🙂


Expect to be underwhelmed.

Jules


Have to admit I was, but only slightly. There's a feeling of demo ness about some of the tracks.  There are however some good moments -  'Cora',  'Flycatcher'.   The booklet notes go onto the genesis of the album at some length.

Also played Al Stewart :  Chronicles  - best of  (EMI LP,  1991).
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« Reply #277 on: June 29, 2022, 11:39:15 AM »


There's a feeling of demo ness about some of the tracks.  


Absolutely this.

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« Reply #278 on: June 30, 2022, 05:20:31 PM »

The new Porcupine Tree.  Didn't expect to like it, but I do.  Lad's come a long way since I saw them in the Penny Theatre, Canterbury in '95.  I only really went to see a member of Japan in the flesh.
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« Reply #279 on: June 30, 2022, 08:07:00 PM »


The new Porcupine Tree.  Didn't expect to like it, but I do.  Lad's come a long way since I saw them in the Penny Theatre, Canterbury in '95.  I only really went to see a member of Japan in the flesh.
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